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Focus on Impactful Outcomes, Not Just Tasks
- 17 February, 2025
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Modern employees want to know they’re investing their efforts wisely—that they’re making a positive difference to the organization, their communities and themselves. Keeping them engaged means helping keep their investment worthwhile.

Organizations might consider shifting their emphasis from task management to driving transformative, impactful outcomes to achieve this. This approach not only adds value to the business but also creates a more rewarding and purpose-driven experience for employees.

1. Package Work Around Impact, Not Activities

Employees want to see how their efforts contribute to meaningful change, whether it’s in customer satisfaction, innovation, or societal impact. The challenge for P&C leadership is to “package” roles with clear narratives about how the work drives organizational goals and larger outcomes.

For example, instead of tasking a product team to release five new features, the goal might be framed as improving user retention by 20%. This reframing connects individual actions to impactful results, making the work more engaging and purpose-driven.

2. Align Outcomes with Employee Motivations

To foster a deep commitment to outcomes, we want to connect their work goals to what employees care about. This requires understanding personal drivers, such as creativity, problem-solving, or making a difference.

For instance, if a business objective involves creating a more inclusive customer experience, employees passionate about diversity and inclusion can be empowered to lead initiatives, propose solutions, or measure progress. We can make the employment offering more compelling by tying big-picture goals to personal passions.

3. Encourage Employees to Think Like Stakeholders

Employees naturally gravitate toward outcome-oriented thinking when they view themselves as stakeholders in the company’s success. P&C leadership can cultivate this mindset by sharing key metrics, fostering transparency, and offering profit-sharing or incentive programs tied to measurable results.

For example, an operations team might be tasked with streamlining a supply chain to cut costs by 15%. By showing how achieving this outcome benefits the company—and tying rewards to its success—employees are more likely to approach the challenge with a sense of ownership and innovation.

4. Build Flexibility into Workflows to Achieve Results

Impactful outcomes often require adaptability. By giving employees more autonomy to shape their work processes, organizations can unlock creative solutions and foster innovation.

For example, rather than dictating the exact steps to achieve a sales target, leadership could allow teams to experiment with new approaches, such as digital marketing or partnerships, as long as they remain aligned with core objectives. This approach acknowledges that the path to success can vary and empowers employees to optimize their methods.

5. Reinforce a Culture of Continuous Learning

Achieving transformative outcomes often involves trial and error. By embedding learning opportunities into the work product, organizations can prepare employees to tackle ambitious goals confidently.

For example, if an impactful outcome involves leveraging AI for decision-making, P&C could offer microlearning modules, mentorship, or innovation labs where employees can experiment with AI tools. This proactive investment in skills ensures that employees feel equipped to pursue meaningful outcomes.

Focus on What Matters Most

Organizations that prioritise impactful outcomes over task completion create work offerings that resonate with employees. By packaging roles with impact, flexibility, and opportunities for growth, companies can cultivate a workforce that is not just task-driven but outcome-focused—delivering results that drive innovation and growth.

Want to improve employee engagement and workplace culture? Explore our Culture & Leadership Programs and discover practical ways to build a more engaged, outcome-focused workforce.
Interviews
Inspiring Conversations: Shannon Roberts Gibbs on Leadership, Psychosocial Safety, and Building a Culture That Works
- 30 January, 2025
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What defines a thriving workplace culture? In my latest Inspiring Conversation with organisational psychologist Shannon Roberts Gibbs, we explored the profound impact that authentic leadership has on shaping an organisation’s environment, engagement, and overall success.

With years of experience in leadership development, Shannon has worked with executives to transform toxic workplaces into thriving, high-performing environments. “One of the biggest challenges,” she explains, “is when leadership ignores or tolerates toxic behaviors. It creates a ripple effect where fear and disengagement spread through the organisation.”

At the heart of a strong organisational culture is psychosocial safety—a workplace where employees feel valued, heard, and supported. Shannon emphasises that this isn’t about ticking compliance boxes but fostering an environment where people feel safe to speak up without fear of retaliation.

The Role of Leadership in Workplace Culture

Leaders set the tone for the entire organisation. When they model transparency, inclusivity, and accountability, employees feel more engaged and committed. Shannon highlights key strategies for building a healthy workplace:
- Invest in leadership development – Equip leaders with the skills to navigate complex workplace dynamics.
- Prioritise open communication – Encourage honest feedback and active listening.
- Address toxic behaviours – Tolerating negativity can erode trust and productivity.
- Lead by example – Leaders who model the right behaviours create an environment where employees feel motivated and safe.
The Rising Importance of Psychosocial Safety

One of the most pressing issues in today’s workplaces is psychosocial safety. Research shows that workplaces with poor leadership and toxic cultures experience higher turnover, burnout, and even legal risks. Shannon points to alarming statistics, including the rising cost of psychosocial injury claims, which are predicted to increase four to five times over the next two decades.

“When employees feel psychologically unsafe, they disengage,” Shannon explains. “The best organisations proactively address stress, burnout, and work overload before they lead to serious issues.”

To create a resilient organisational culture, leaders must take a proactive approach by identifying risks, implementing mental health initiatives, and ensuring workplace policies align with employee well-being.

Authentic Leadership Drives Lasting Change

Shannon’s experience proves that culture isn’t just a set of values on a wall—it’s shaped by daily decisions and behaviours. “For executives committed to shaping a positive workplace culture, the best investment you can make is in your leadership,” she says.

If you’re looking to strengthen your workplace culture, lead with authenticity, and foster a thriving organisational culture, don’t miss this interview. You can listen to it in full here on Spotify or via Vimeo here.

You can connect with Shannon on LinkedIn or visit her website to find out more about what she does.

Coaching vs Mentorship: What’s the difference and which one do you need?

28 January, 2025
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If you’ve ever searched for coaching vs mentorship, you’ve probably found plenty of articles explaining that both help people grow. That’s true, but it doesn’t really help you decide which approach is right for you or your organisation.

After working with hundreds of leaders across organisations of every size, I’ve found that people often use the terms interchangeably. Yet coaching and mentoring solve very different problems.

Understanding that difference can make all the difference to your development and the development of your people.

What is coaching?

Coaching is about helping someone move forward from where they are today.

A coach isn’t there to provide all the answers or tell someone exactly what to do. Instead, they ask thoughtful questions, challenge assumptions, provide perspective and help the individual develop their own judgement.

Good coaching is practical. It creates space for leaders to think more clearly, work through complex situations and build the confidence to make better decisions.

The focus is usually on specific goals, such as:

leading a larger team
navigating organisational change
improving communication and influence
strengthening executive presence
preparing for a more senior role
managing difficult conversations.

Rather than relying on advice, coaching develops the capability to solve similar challenges well into the future.

What is mentorship?

Mentorship draws on experience.

A mentor has often travelled a similar path and shares lessons they’ve learned along the way. They provide guidance, ideas and encouragement based on their own career and experiences.

Mentoring conversations often explore questions such as:

What would you do in my position?
How did you handle something similar?
What should I expect as my career progresses?

That perspective can be incredibly valuable, particularly for emerging leaders or professionals entering unfamiliar situations.

The relationship is usually broader and longer term than coaching, with discussions extending beyond immediate workplace challenges into career development and professional growth.

Coaching vs mentorship: the key difference

The biggest difference between coaching and mentorship is where the expertise sits.

A mentor contributes their experience.

A coach helps you develop your own.

Both approaches have value, but they achieve different outcomes.

Coaching	Mentorship
Focuses on future performance	Focuses on sharing experience
Develops thinking and decision-making	Provides advice and guidance
Goal-oriented and structured	Often broader and relationship-based
Builds capability through questioning	Builds confidence through shared experience
Helps leaders find their own solutions	Offers lessons from someone who’s been there

Neither approach is better than the other. It depends entirely on what you need.

When coaching creates the biggest impact

Many of the leaders we work with don’t lack technical capability.

They’re already highly experienced.

What they’re looking for is somewhere to step outside the day-to-day demands of the organisation and think differently.

Executive coaching provides that opportunity.

Whether someone is leading organisational change, stepping into a larger role or managing increasingly complex stakeholder relationships, coaching creates dedicated time to reflect, challenge thinking and develop practical strategies for moving forward.

Often, the answers are already there. Coaching helps leaders uncover them.

Executive coaching at Carole Cooper Consulting

At Carole Cooper Consulting, coaching is never a one-size-fits-all process.

Our executive coaching programs are tailored to the individual, their role and the challenges they’re facing.

Some leaders work with us to strengthen their confidence in a new executive position. Others are navigating significant organisational change, preparing for succession, improving leadership effectiveness or building stronger relationships across executive teams and Boards.

Our coaching combines thoughtful challenge with practical support, helping leaders develop stronger judgement, greater self-awareness and the confidence to lead well in complex environments.

Because every organisation and every leader is different, every coaching engagement is designed around the outcomes that matter most.

Do you need coaching, mentoring or both?

The answer isn’t always one or the other.

Many successful leaders benefit from both at different stages of their careers.

If you’re looking for practical guidance from someone who’s walked a similar path, mentoring may be exactly what you need.

If you’re ready to strengthen your leadership capability, improve your decision-making or work through complex challenges with an experienced coach, coaching is often the better fit.

The most effective leaders continue investing in their own development throughout their careers. They know that better leadership doesn’t happen by accident. It comes from creating opportunities to think differently, learn continuously and keep growing.

Culture
5 Steps for a Year of Organisational Culture Reset
- 23 January, 2025
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The shift from “HR” to “People and Culture” (P&C) is more than a rebranding—it reflects the profound influence that we as professionals have in the environments where people spend a third of their life. We are the architects of our organisation’s culture. We have the power to shape the spaces where people connect, innovate, and achieve. A culture reset isn’t just about fixing what’s broken; it’s about designing a workplace where everyone can thrive.

A new year is your opportunity to make organisational culture a competitive advantage – to create a legacy that inspires employees, drives business success, and positions your organisation for long-term greatness.

1. Start with Reflection: Where Are You Now?

Before you can reset your organisational culture, you need to understand its current state. What’s working? What isn’t? And most importantly, does your culture align with your organisation’s goals and values?

Ask yourself:
• Do employees feel a sense of belonging and purpose?
• Are your values visible in everyday decisions, or are they just words on a wall?
• How well does your culture support your strategic priorities, such as innovation, customer focus, or agility?

Use tools like employee surveys, focus groups, and feedback platforms to gather insights. These reflections will form the foundation of your culture reset.

2. Prioritise People Over Policies

A thriving organisational culture puts people front and centre. That means designing systems and processes that empower employees, respect their individuality, and support their well-being.

Action steps:
• Build flexibility into work arrangements, recognizing that one size doesn’t fit all.
• Foster psychological safety, where employees feel comfortable sharing ideas, concerns, and feedback.
• Create clear pathways for growth and development, aligning personal aspirations with organizational goals.

When people feel valued and supported, they contribute their best—and your culture becomes a magnet for top talent.

3. Align Culture with Strategy

Organisational culture isn’t just about how employees feel; it’s about how they act. For your reset to succeed, your cultural priorities must reinforce your business objectives.

Action steps:
• Identify the behaviours that will drive success in 2025, whether it’s collaboration, accountability, or customer-centricity.
• Reinforce these behaviours through leadership modelling, performance metrics, and recognition programs.
• Ensure that every team and department understand how their work contributes to the bigger picture.

When strategy and culture work hand in hand, the entire organisation moves forward with purpose and focus.

4. Embrace Change as a Constant

One of the biggest global lessons of the past few years is that change is inevitable—and your organisational culture must be agile enough to adapt. A culture reset isn’t a one-time event; it’s an ongoing process of listening, learning, and evolving.

Action steps:
• Build adaptability into your culture by encouraging experimentation and learning from failures.
• Regularly revisit your cultural priorities to ensure they remain relevant.
• Equip leaders with the skills to guide their teams through uncertainty with empathy and clarity.

Organisations that embrace change as part of their DNA will not only survive but thrive in the years ahead.

5. Measure, Adjust, and Celebrate Progress

Culture isn’t static—it’s dynamic and ever-changing. To sustain your reset, you need to measure its impact, adjust when necessary, and celebrate your wins along the way.

Action steps:
• Use metrics like engagement scores, retention rates, and customer satisfaction to gauge your cultural health.
• Hold regular check-ins with employees to gather feedback on what’s working and what needs improvement.
• Celebrate milestones, both big and small, to keep momentum and enthusiasm high.

Let’s make this year one where we reimagine what’s possible and create an organisational culture that delivers real impact!
Culture
Break down silos and fuel cross-department collaboration
- 6 January, 2025
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Silos often begin with the best of intentions. Leaders may aim to create fairness and accountability by assigning teams sole responsibility for their specific areas. This model works well in small, controlled environments. But as businesses grow and complexity increases, this structure can become unproductive, stifling collaboration, innovation, and agility.

The reality is that together, we can achieve far more than the sum of individual efforts. Breaking down silos requires intentional action to foster cross-department collaboration and unlock the full potential of your workforce. Recognizing the signs of siloed behaviour is the first step toward creating a more cohesive and innovative organization.

6 Signs Your Organization Has a Silo Problem
- Us vs. Them Language
If teams frequently refer to other departments as “them” or describe their work as being in conflict with others, it clearly indicates siloed thinking. For example, “Marketing keeps overpromising, and we’re stuck cleaning up the mess” reflects a lack of unity in purpose.
- Lack of Information Sharing
When teams hoard knowledge or fail to share updates, it disrupts workflows and breeds mistrust. Phrases like, “We didn’t know they were working on that” or “That’s not our department’s concern” highlight poor communication across boundaries.
- Duplication of Effort
Multiple teams solving the same problem without coordination wastes resources and signals misalignment. If you hear complaints like, “Why are we doing the same thing as the other team?” it’s time to address collaboration gaps.
- Rigid Role Protection
Employees who are overly territorial about their responsibilities, saying things like, “That’s not my job,” exhibit siloed behaviour. This rigidity stifles teamwork and prevents flexible problem-solving.
- Finger-Pointing During Problems
A blame culture often stems from silos. If teams default to saying, “That’s not our fault—it’s theirs,” when challenges arise, it reveals a lack of shared ownership for organizational outcomes.
- Difficulty Achieving Cross-Functional Goals
Siloed organizations struggle with initiatives requiring collaboration, like launching new products or improving customer experience. Hearing frustrations like, “We can’t move forward because no one agrees on priorities,” indicates a systemic silo issue.

Breaking Down Silos for Better Collaboration

Recognising these signs is just the beginning. Here’s how to move from siloed thinking to a culture of shared success:
- Foster Interdependence
Emphasise the value of collective outcomes over individual team achievements. Create projects that require cross-department collaboration and make joint success a key performance indicator.
- Build Open Communication Channels
Invest in tools and practices that facilitate transparency, such as shared dashboards, regular interdepartmental meetings, or project management platforms.
- Celebrate Collaborative Wins
Highlight and reward teamwork across departments. This shifts the focus from isolated achievements to the power of working together.
- Model Cross-Functional Leadership
Encourage leaders to champion cross-functional initiatives, creating opportunities for teams to align their efforts and learn from each other.

By breaking down silos, you create an organization that’s more agile, innovative, and aligned with its goals. Together, your teams can achieve far more than they could alone.
Interviews
Inspiring Conversations: Melanie Waters-Ryan on the Culture that Builds Success
- 5 December, 2024
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What makes a company culture truly iconic?
In this captivating episode of Inspiring Conversations, Carole Cooper sits down with Melanie Waters-Ryan, the former COO of Flight Centre Travel Group, to uncover the secret sauce behind one of the most unique corporate cultures in the world.Over 36 years at Flight Centre, Melanie saw firsthand how the company’s quintessentially Australian values of egalitarianism, irreverence, and ownership created an environment where people thrived, innovations flourished, and challenges—like 9/11 and COVID-19—were met with resilience.
A Culture That Stands Out
Flight Centre’s culture, Melanie explained, is “quintessentially Australian.” She described it as a combination of egalitarianism, irreverence, and ownership, which created an environment where “everyone is as important as each other.” For Melanie, irreverence was a defining trait, allowing employees to challenge the status quo in a fun and constructive way.
Ownership, however, was where the culture truly shone. Employees were encouraged to treat the business as their own. Melanie noted, “We made money out of sweat,” emphasizing the hard work and personal investment employees brought to the table. She pointed to the company’s Business Ownership Scheme, which allowed employees to share in the profits of their divisions, as a concrete example of how Flight Centre empowered its people.
Culture in Action: Weathering Challenges
Melanie spoke candidly about the external challenges Flight Centre faced over the years, from 9/11 to COVID-19. “COVID was the ultimate challenge,” she admitted, describing how the pandemic forced the company to make “horrible decisions” like cutting three-quarters of the workforce. Despite these hardships, the culture became a uniting force. “Everyone just pulled together in some sort of sense of momentum,” she said. “It wasn’t a cult, but it was a movement.”
Melanie also credited the company’s situational leadership approach, which allowed individuals to step up during crises. “Skroo [the company’s founder] was the quiet leader in the room, and I was the bossy, organized one,” she said, laughing. “We all had our roles, and that’s what helped us survive.”
The Flip Side of a Strong Culture
While culture was a major strength, Melanie also acknowledged its potential pitfalls. She described instances where the sense of ownership went too far, leading to territorialism. “You can’t tell me what to do, stay out of my area,” she mimicked, reflecting on the challenges of implementing change as Transformation Officer. “You have to balance ownership with humility and curiosity.”
Melanie shared a lesson for leaders: “You have to watch the underbelly of those really great things. Ownership can make your business soar, but without vulnerability and openness, it can also create resistance to change.”
Lessons for Leaders and Businesses
Melanie’s reflections on leadership tied closely to the culture at Flight Centre. She stressed the importance of starting with culture when improving a business. “Culture is an absolute business differentiator,” she said. “It’s not money or assets. It’s the intangible glue that holds everything together.”
She encouraged leaders to embrace paradoxes, like balancing “big inspirational ideas” with grassroots action. “Think small to grow big,” she said repeatedly, explaining how humility and focus on micro-level improvements often lead to broader success.
Melanie’s stories are a powerful reminder of the role culture plays in a business’s success. Whether it’s fostering ownership, navigating crises, or managing change, Flight Centre’s experience shows how a strong, lived culture can inspire innovation, resilience, and unity. As Melanie put it, “I feel fortunate and privileged to have been part of something so unique. It’s taught me that culture isn’t just something you talk about—it’s the engine that drives everything.”
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The Five Things You Need to Know About Gaining Cultural Awareness
- 19 November, 2024
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As a South African person of colour who grew up during apartheid, I’ve experienced firsthand the complex realities of living with deep-rooted divisions—and I’ve also witnessed the growth that can come from facing them head-on. South Africa is frequently still spotlighted for its racial tensions, but what’s less noticed is how much the country has matured in dealing with diversity. Our journey hasn’t been easy, and our wounds are still healing, but those difficult experiences have taught us valuable lessons about working together across differences. Now, as countries around the world increasingly confront issues of diversity and inclusion, I believe South Africa’s painful past can offer useful insights for navigating these challenging, often uncomfortable realities. Here are five insights about navigating diversity in the workplace that go beyond what HR manuals typically cover:

1.Be Ready for Unintentional Missteps—They’re Part of the Learning Curve

When people from different backgrounds work together, it’s almost guaranteed that misunderstandings, assumptions, or microaggressions will happen. These moments can be jarring, but they’re often unintentional, rooted in biases people may not even realize they have. Instead of responding defensively or ignoring it, consider framing these moments as chances for a deeper conversation. Authentic diversity involves honest dialogue about what’s hurtful or alienating without immediately assuming malice.

2. Recognize the Subtle “Saviour Complex”

Some people feel compelled to help or “save” those they see as disadvantaged, which can come off as patronizing, even if it’s well-intentioned. For example, offering excessive help or “fixing” someone else’s work without being asked can send the message that you don’t think they’re capable. Instead, practice active listening—people often know what they need and appreciate being treated as capable and autonomous. Recognizing when your “help” may be more about how it makes you feel than the other person’s needs can be a game-changer.

3. Understand That “Everyone Has a Story”—But Don’t Assume They Want to Be the Spokesperson for It

While embracing diversity often involves acknowledging people’s unique stories, it’s essential not to reduce individuals to the stereotypes or labels associated with their identity. Not everyone wishes to be the “representative” of their particular group, and it can be exploitative, invasive, and stressful to make the one “different” employee responsible for educating their colleagues. This burden of being the go-to for questions or insights on cultural matters can lead to them feeling overly visible, exposed, or even tokenized. They may feel unfairly pressured to make themselves vulnerable in ways others aren’t expected to. Instead, encourage a culture of shared learning where everyone is responsible for educating themselves and supporting each other, rather than leaning on individuals to represent an entire group.

4. Practice Checking Your Assumptions Before Jumping to Conclusions

It’s easy to feel offended, slighted, or confused by others’ behaviours that differ from what you’re used to. For instance, you may see someone’s directness as rude or their silence as indifference. But remember, these behaviours often stem from cultural norms rather than intent to offend. Before reacting, try to step back and consider whether the behaviour could reflect different values, norms, or communication styles. This simple step can save countless misunderstandings.

5. Know That Diversity Means Constantly Adjusting—It’s Not One-and-Done

Living and working in a diverse environment means continuously learning and re-learning. You’ll have to adjust as new people join, different values emerge, and situations evolve. Sometimes you may feel frustrated, challenged, or even embarrassed by what you don’t know. Accepting that discomfort and humility are part of the experience is crucial. True inclusivity is not about “fixing” biases in one go—it’s a mindset of being open, adaptable, and patient with both yourself and others as you navigate a changing landscape.

Navigating diversity can be messy, but hopefully these insights can help make it a transformative experience rather than just a superficial exercise.

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Employee Experience
The Role of AI in Business: Insights from Kim Trajer, COO of McCullough Robertson
- 24 October, 2024
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Artificial Intelligence (AI) has been a major topic of discussion in recent years, especially with the introduction of tools like ChatGPT that have accelerated its public adoption. However, according to Kim Trajer, COO at McCullough Robertson, AI is not a new concept. While AI has been around in various forms for years, it’s the rapid rise of Generative AI and tools like ChatGPT that has captured the public’s imagination.

In our recent interview, Trajer shared her thoughts on the rapid growth of AI, its potential impact on businesses, and its limitations. “The hype around AI, particularly ChatGPT, is something we’ve never seen before,” she noted, highlighting the speed at which the technology gained traction. “It took ChatGPT just two months to reach 100 million users, whereas the World Wide Web, when it was first introduced, took seven years to reach that milestone.”

Trajer pointed out that many industries, including agriculture and mining, have been using AI for years. However, the buzz around AI now stems from how accessible it has become, with free versions available to the public. This accessibility, combined with the constant release of new features, has brought AI to the forefront of business conversations. “It’s readily accessible to everyone, and new versions keep coming out,” she said.

AI as a Tool for Efficiency, Not a Replacement

Trajer emphasized that while AI is a powerful tool, it is not a magic solution to every business problem. For McCullough Robertson and many other businesses, AI has proven to be particularly useful for efficiency—especially in creating first drafts of content for documents, generating ideas, and automating repetitive tasks. But it’s important to remember, she said, that the technology is still far from perfect. “It hallucinates, it makes mistakes, and it depends on how you ask the question as to what sort of result you’re going to get,” Trajer noted.

One of her favourite examples of using AI to boost efficiency came from a personal anecdote about writing a poem for a colleague’s 25-year work anniversary. “I’ve been working with this IT developer for 25 years, and I thought it would be fitting to use ChatGPT to help me write a poem for his anniversary speech. I fed it personal details, refined it four times, and after about 10 minutes, I had a poem that I read out at his lunch,” she shared. “When I wrote his 20-year speech, it probably took me a couple of hours, so you can see how much time it saved.”

Despite this, Trajer stressed that AI should be used as a tool to augment, rather than replace, human effort. “It’s great for a first draft, but it still requires human refinement. You can instruct it to make something shorter or avoid flowery language, but it can’t assess risk or provide nuanced legal advice.”

The Hype Cycle of AI in Business

In the interview, Trajer discussed the concept of the AI “hype cycle” using Gartner’s technology adoption model. This model charts the typical lifecycle of new technologies: first, there’s the excitement and promises, followed by disillusionment as people realize that the technology can’t meet all of their expectations. “We’re starting to go down that slope of disillusionment now, where the reality is setting in,” she explained. “A lot of law firms are realizing that while AI can be a useful tool, it also makes mistakes and can’t fully replace human expertise.”

She also referred to the “innovation by press release” phenomenon, where organizations rush to announce their use of AI without fully understanding its capabilities or limitations. “The Australian Financial Review was full of articles every day about law firms experimenting with AI,” Trajer said. “But now the reality is setting in, and firms are realizing AI can’t do everything we hoped.”

AI’s Impact on Jobs and Business Roles

One of the biggest concerns surrounding AI is its potential to replace human jobs. Trajer addressed this, particularly in relation to law firms, where there were initial fears that AI would replace junior lawyers or administrative staff. However, she doesn’t believe AI will lead to mass job losses anytime soon. “AI can make roles more efficient, but I don’t think it will eliminate many jobs entirely, except maybe in specific cases like call centers,” she said.

She gave the example of Telstra, which uses AI to handle routine customer queries. “With AI, call centers can handle more calls per shift, which may reduce the need for as many staff. But for most industries, including law, AI will assist rather than replace.”

What Trajer finds most promising is the potential for AI to remove the more monotonous aspects of jobs, allowing people to focus on more meaningful, creative work. “I hope it takes away the boring, monotonous tasks and adds value to people’s roles,” she said. This could create opportunities for workers to engage in more strategic and fulfilling tasks, particularly involving human interaction and connection.

The Importance of Strategy and Caution

Despite the excitement surrounding AI, Trajer advises caution when adopting new technologies. “At McCullough Robertson, we’re not about jumping into every shiny new tool just because it’s trendy,” she said. “We need to think about what problem we’re trying to solve and whether AI is the right solution for that.”

Her approach to AI is pragmatic and strategic. The firm has experimented with bots and apps using AI technology, but Trajer insists that AI should only be adopted if it aligns with a company’s broader business strategy. “We built some bots and other apps, but it’s all about understanding how these tools can support our existing goals, rather than letting the hype drive us.”

A Balanced Future

As AI continues to develop, Trajer is cautiously optimistic about its potential. She believes AI will continue to play an important role in business, but it’s essential to manage expectations. “AI is moving fast, and it’s definitely going to have an impact, but there are risks we need to be aware of and we need to manage.” she concluded. “And we need to be careful about its use, especially when it comes to regulation and the impact it might have on people’s well-being.”

In the end, for Trajer, the key to successful AI implementation lies in balancing technology with human expertise. “The key to innovation is people, not technology,” she said. It’s a sentiment that underscores the importance of strategy, caution, and human judgment in the age of AI.

For more insights, you can follow or connect with Kim on LinkedIn
Interviews
CCC Empowering Women Series: Kim Trajer, COO of McCullough Robertson
- 23 October, 2024
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At CCC we’re passionate about empowering and celebrating women. Our Empowering Women Series focuses on Inspiring Women who are all doing their part to help others and make positive change. Grab a cuppa and enjoy this exploration of experiences, challenges, insights and advice.

Kim Trajer, a seasoned professional with 30 years of experience at McCullough Robertson, describes herself as curious, optimistic, and organized. These three traits have shaped her approach to work and life. “I’m always thinking about whether there’s a better way to do something,” she explains, emphasizing her curiosity. This drive for improvement has fuelled her career, especially in the legal industry, where change is often met with resistance. Her optimism has helped her remain patient and persistent while navigating resistance to change: “Being optimistic that … there is a better way of doing things, and we will get there,” she says. Lastly, her organization is crucial in managing the various tasks and challenges of her role. Kim jokes that OneNote is her “good friend,” enabling her to keep track of her to-do lists, manage stress, and focus on both the big picture and the details.

Kim’s career began after completing her Commerce Law degree. She worked her way up through McCullough Robertson, starting in the Gold Coast office, handling various roles from property and wills to commercial work. Early on, she discovered her interest in superannuation law and shifted to the Brisbane office, where she dove into commercial transactions. Her career truly took shape when she started her Master’s in Taxation, a challenging five-year, part-time program she completed just before starting a family.

Working part-time with limited technology posed its own challenges, particularly in the complex field of tax law. “I would take a wheelie suitcase full of paper files to work from home,” Kim recalls, highlighting the difficulties of managing demanding commercial work without modern tools. Eventually, she transitioned to knowledge management, where she and a colleague revamped all of the firm’s legal precedents and documents during a major rebrand.

This period sparked her interest in risk management and innovation. Through these projects, she began to understand how system integration and effective processes could enhance a law firm’s operations. “I started realizing the benefits of innovation,” she says, recalling the time when the firm collaborated with a Professor from UQ Business School to develop an innovation strategy for the firm. It was this shift from the practice of law to the business of law that made Kim realize where her true passion lay. She enjoyed working on strategy development, AI projects, and community partnerships, all of which she continues to oversee as COO of McCullough Robertson—a role she’s held for eight years.

Looking back on her career, Kim acknowledges that not every step was planned. “I had no plan for that sort of very jungle gym kind of career,” she admits. Instead, she credits the opportunities given to her by the firm’s partners and her willingness to embrace roles that challenged her. While some partners were highly supportive, others were not as receptive. “I work for 58 partners, each with different personalities, driving their own agendas,” she says. However, Kim has learned a great deal from those who didn’t support her, seeing these interactions as opportunities for growth.

When asked about her leadership approach, Kim emphasizes the importance of focusing on the outcomes and why they matter to the business. Lawyers, she explains, are trained to “pick holes” in ideas, so she prepares for that and uses data to back up her points. By addressing client feedback and financial data, she is able to present a compelling case for change, always linking it back to the firm’s broader strategy. She believes in making change palatable by showing lawyers “what’s in it for them” and slowing down the process to ensure a smoother transition. “The rollout of something is never the end … if you slow down and take a bit longer to do it, you often get a better outcome in a shorter time frame,” she explains.

Balancing her professional and personal life has been an evolving process for Kim, who is a mother, wife, and executive. “There was certainly an era when we did think we could have it all, all at once,” she reflects, admitting that it took time for her to learn that balance wasn’t always achievable. She now values taking breaks and disconnecting from work on weekends. “I used to work every weekend,” she recalls, but over time, she realized the importance of rest for maintaining efficiency and well-being.

Her children, now between the ages of 16 and 22, are more self-sufficient but still need her in various ways, which she tries to balance with her professional responsibilities. She also focuses on health and self-care, making time for activities that give her joy, like gardening, cooking, and walks by the water. “If you can do all of that … the challenges at work are not so big, and you actually manage to get more done,” she notes.

Kim concludes by sharing a piece of wisdom that comes with experience: perfection is not always necessary. “If you make a mistake, it can be fixed,” she says, encouraging others to adopt a more flexible mindset as they navigate their own careers and personal lives.

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Employee Experience
4 Ways Whole Brain® Thinking Can Improve Workplace Mental Health
- 25 June, 2024
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Employee burnout has become a prevalent issue globally, affecting individual well-being, organisational productivity, and morale. While Australia didn’t experience the post-pandemic “Great Resignation” seen elsewhere, Melbourne University’s 2023 Future of Work Report tells us our workers are more burnt out than ever. It is a stark warning to employers of the employee attrition risk facing them if they don’t take steps to address the mental health challenges of their employees. In this article, we take a closer look at the causes of burnout and how Whole Brain® Thinking can assist with mental health in the workplace and drive employee engagement.

What is Employee Burnout, and How Can Employers Spot It?

Employee burnout is a state of physical, emotional, and mental exhaustion caused by prolonged stress and overwork. It often results from chronic workplace stressors, such as excessive workload, lack of control, and insufficient support. Poor mental health in the workplace can result in physical symptoms that include:
- Fatigue: Feeling constantly tired, even after rest.
- Insomnia: Difficulty falling asleep or staying asleep.
- Headaches and other physical discomfort.
- Weakened Immune System: Frequent illnesses due to stress.
There are also emotional signs of burnout, such as:
- Cynicism and Detachment: Feeling distant from work and colleagues.
- Reduced Accomplishment: A sense of inefficacy and decreased productivity.
- Irritability and mood swings.
- Lack of Motivation: Loss of enthusiasm for tasks.
Spotting employee burnout early allows organisations to intervene and support their workforce. P&C leadership should be on the lookout for the following behavioural clues of issues with mental health in the workplace:
- Withdrawal: Employees isolating themselves from others.
- Increased Absenteeism: Frequent sick days or time off.
- Decreased Performance: Missed deadlines or poor quality work.
- Neglecting Self-Care: Ignoring physical and mental health needs.
- Reduced Employee Engagement: Lack of interest and reduced participation in workplace activities.
Applying Whole Brain® Thinking to Employee Mental Health

Mental health in the workplace requires a holistic approach that adequately accounts for the diversity of today’s workforce. Whole Brain® Thinking, based on the Herrmann Brain Dominance Instrument (HBDI), offers a robust framework to enhance mental health and prevent burnout by leveraging diversity and inclusion.

The model categorises the thinking styles and cognitive preferences into four quadrants: Analytical (A), Practical (B), Relational (C), and Experimental (D). Understanding and leveraging these different thinking styles can help organisations create supportive environments that promote mental well-being and resilience. We’ve applied the different thinking styles to the four major issues highlighted by Melbourne University’s research to demonstrate the richness leadership teams embracing diversity and inclusion can bring to problem-solving.

1. Enhancing Workplace Safety and Inclusivity

MU’s report reveals that many Australians perceive their work environments as unsafe, with discrimination affecting women, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders, caregivers, and people living with chronic illnesses. Professor Leah Ruppanner, one of the authors and a gender inequality expert, cautions against assuming caregivers are exclusively women. She says caregiving men are also exhausted, subject to discrimination and at risk of attrition. Workplaces need to evolve to cater for this diversity and inclusion.

Applying Whole Brain® Thinking to workplace safety might look something like this:
- Quadrant A (Analytical Thinking): Use data-driven insights to identify patterns of discrimination and unsafe practices (psychological and physical). Implement rigorous safety protocols and regular audits to ensure compliance and address any identified issues promptly.
- Quadrant B (Practical Thinking): Develop clear, actionable policies and procedures to create a safe and inclusive workplace. Ensure all employees are trained on these protocols and understand the steps to report safety or discrimination concerns.
- Quadrant C (Relational Thinking): Foster a supportive and inclusive culture by promoting empathy, emotional intelligence, and active listening. Create safe spaces for open dialogue where employees can voice their concerns without fear of retaliation.
- Quadrant D (Experimental Thinking): Encourage innovative solutions to enhance workplace safety. Implement creative initiatives like anonymous reporting apps or virtual reality training for safety procedures to engage employees in new ways.
2. Addressing Employee Well-Being

Australian workers report greater exhaustion and stress post-pandemic, particularly those with additional responsibilities outside of work. Caregivers were particularly hard hit during the pandemic with school closures and reduced access to services. But now, MU’s research shows they’re still working harder than they did pre-pandemic.

We can apply Whole Brain® Thinking employee well-being as follows:
- Quadrant A (Analytical Thinking): Utilise data to monitor employee well-being indicators, such as absenteeism, productivity, and employee engagement. Implement evidence-based wellness programs that address physical, mental, and emotional health.
- Quadrant B (Practical Thinking): Develop structured support systems, such as flexible working hours, remote work options, and clear work-life boundaries, to help employees manage their responsibilities effectively.
- Quadrant C (Relational Thinking): Promote a culture of care and support. Implement regular check-ins, peer support programs, and mental health resources to ensure employees feel valued and supported.
- Quadrant D (Experimental Thinking): Innovate wellness initiatives by offering creative outlets such as mindfulness sessions, team-building activities, and opportunities for employees to pursue personal interests and hobbies.
3. Mitigating the Risk of Employee Attrition

Prime-aged workers are experiencing exhaustion, lack of motivation, and difficulty concentrating due to non-work responsibilities. Young (18-34 years) and middle-aged (35-54 years) workers were disproportionately affected by the pandemic compared to their older colleagues (aged 55 and over), MU’s study has found. Over 30% of prime-aged workers contemplate quitting compared to 20% of older workers. The study also revealed the number of workers with chronic illnesses has increased to 38% from 32% in 2021, possibly as a result of Long COVID and the mental impact of working through the pandemic. 40% of these report wanting to quit, and almost 75% say their jobs make them sicker.

A Whole Brain® Thinking approach to retention might involve the following:
- Quadrant A (Analytical Thinking): Conduct thorough analyses to identify critical factors contributing to employee turnover. Use this data to develop targeted retention strategies.
- Quadrant B (Practical Thinking): Implement practical solutions such as mentorship programs, career development opportunities, and clear pathways for advancement to keep employees motivated and engaged.
- Quadrant C (Relational Thinking): Foster a supportive and inclusive work environment that values work-life balance. Recognise and address the unique needs of employees with additional responsibilities outside of work.
- Quadrant D (Experimental Thinking): Create an engaging, stimulating work environment that encourages creativity and innovation. Provide opportunities for employees to work on exciting projects that align with their passions and interests.
4. Preparing for the Future of Work

According to MU’s research, Australian workers are largely unprepared for future workplace challenges driven by automation and artificial intelligence. Most Australians either underestimate the adaptation required or overestimate their ability to deal with such change. And 20% will only adopt new technology if forced to do so. Employers must facilitate inclusive technology use as part of their retention strategies or risk further deterioration of their employees’ well-being and attrition.

A Whole Brain® Thinking approach to future preparedness might involve:
- Quadrant A (Analytical Thinking): Provide data-driven insights into future trends and necessary skills. Offer training programs focused on analytical and technical skills essential for navigating automation and AI advancements.
- Quadrant B (Practical Thinking): Develop practical training programs and resources that equip employees with the skills to adapt to new technologies. Ensure these programs are accessible and relevant to all employees.
- Quadrant C (Relational Thinking): Foster a learning culture that values continuous improvement and adaptability. Encourage collaboration and knowledge-sharing among employees to build a resilient and agile workforce.
- Quadrant D (Experimental Thinking): Promote innovation and experimentation by encouraging employees to explore new ideas and technologies. Create opportunities for employees to engage in creative problem-solving and design-thinking workshops.
Conclusion

Applying Whole Brain® Thinking to the challenges identified in the State of the Future of Work Report can significantly enhance workplace well-being, safety, and preparedness. By leveraging diverse cognitive preferences, organisations can create supportive, inclusive, and innovative work environments that address the unique needs of their employees and prepare them for future challenges.

At Carole Cooper Consulting, our HR consulting team specialises in implementing Whole Brain® Thinking strategies to foster healthy, resilient workplaces. To realise the benefits of Whole Brain® Thinking in your organisation, speak to us at Carole Cooper Consulting about the following customised programs designed to enhance workplace mental health, prevent burnout, and bolster preparedness:
- Individual HBDI assessments
- HBDI team workshops
- HBDI-led training and development initiatives
- HBDI-led organisational structuring
- HBDI-led coaching
Sources

https://www.unimelb.edu.au/newsroom/news/2023/march/australian-workers-exhausted,-unprepared-for-technology-driven-future-of-work,-report-says

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